I'm new, does that make a difference

[Gravesent]

I know that I used to think EXACTLY the wya Seraph does. But have changed my opinions over the last few months.

And you still don't get women. Let the guy make his own fuckin choices without an idgit like you havin to put 'em down. What he's doin isn't hurting no one or bothering anyone, so why the hell are you botherin with it?

First of all he was only trying to give some good advice SEX IS NOT WRONG.
Second, you say you have that psychology shit down? Well, accusing him of not having women reveals some inner frustrations of your own...

[dickwad]

girls > women

[Abstrakt]

This is simple, everyone has their own oppinions about sex, love, and ect, and they are entitled to it. But, no one has the right to tell them that they are wrong. There's no need to be arguing over all of this.

[Seraph]

i see how sex could be considered a form of love, almost...but it's not the thing i want. if sex truly is love, then i do not want love. i want something better, something that doesn't require physical pleasure, or isn't controlled by hormones. i just want it to be simple and clean. two people with eachother to be with eachother, not to fullfill an instinctual hole. i'm done preaching, i hope nobody thinks i'm trying to snipe or argue, i'm just telling you my stand

[Gravesent]

When 2 ppl that love each other have sex they become one, that's the beauty of it... you know there is a myth about this, The Androgin (well it's a Romanian myth anyway) that says that in the beginning there were no man and women just a single beautiful and powerful being called The Androgin, the gods were so envious on this being that they used all their powers together to destroy it, the Androgin was so strong that the only thing the gods could do was separate it in two pieces.. man and woman.. it is said that when 2 ppl that truly love each other are together and make love they become The Androgin again...

[Seraph]

yeah, maybe if you are really in love, enough to not need sex to keep your relationship afloat... if you have sex with a whore, that is nothing. there is not feeling, no love, no real connection except a pathetic, weak biological impulse.

[Gravesent]

You only see sex in a single way, there is more than one side to this, sure, sometimes sex is the only thing holding a relationship together and that's wrong, sometimes sex is sick and disgusting but it is all this things if that's what you want it to be, if you really care about a person you are careful when and how you have sex (when = how long you wait until the first time).
"Sex" is not even what it should be called....

[Seraph]

i think that if i have sex, it will become the only thing. it will distract me from the idea of love i want

[Gravesent]

It means you have little trust in yourself, sex is just a part of love, it is not the only thing and it is not even necessary but it is a way to express love and to please your partner, and I personally would do anything to give the girl I love the pleasure she deserves... even more, if while you're having sex you show her how much you like the way she looks she feels appreciated, you raise her self esteem, sure, there are many other ways that this can be done, but sometimes you put some trust in what you physically feel... this is not the best way to explain it... one day you will understand...

[dickwad]

it's a good thing gravesent, it seems he's the only one to actually care enough to try and get him to stop being so silly about this sex thing XD