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Myr wrote:As a decimal system. 'Swhy I prefer metric to standard measurements.

Duodecimal system (a): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, X, Y, 10
Decimal system (b): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

Fraction: 1/2
A. 0.6
B. 0.5

Fraction: 1/3
A. 0.4
B. 0.333333...

Fraction: 1/4
A. 0.3
B. 0.25

Fraction: 1/5
A. 0.249725...
B. 0.2

Fraction: 1/6
A. 0.2
B. 0.166667...

Fraction: 1/7
A. 0.186X35...
B. 0.142857...

Fraction: 1/8
A. 0.16
B. 0.125

Fraction: 1/9
A. 0.14
B. 0.111111...

Fraction: 1/10
A. 0.124972...
B. 0.1

Fraction: 1/11
A. 0.111111...
B. 0.090909...

Fraction: 1/12
A. 0.1
B. 0.083333...

In nine out of the foregoing eleven cases, the number of figures after the decimal point in the decimal version was greater than or equal to the number of figures after the decimal point in the duodecimal version.

Base-12 is easier than Base-10.

haha. why the fuck would you think of these things. right now i'm thinking about the good ol times of power rangers.

You also can't properly write 1/7 in all digits. It's impractical.

Dark Myr wrote:You also can't properly write 1/7 in all digits. It's impractical.

"X" and "Y" (or equivalent symbols) are digits in the duodecimal system, dumbass. They represent the decimal values of "10" and "11."

You're slow at this.

Hmph. Such language.

Digits are numbers. Period.

Having more than a one digit number stand for a single digit seems absurd to me.

I know by base-10 decimals pretty well, for 1 to 1/10, and 1/16, except for some like 1/7. I can figure them easily, my brain works that way. It doesn't work the base-twelve way.

Perhaps you didn't read this carefully enough:

Anarch wrote:Duodecimal system (a): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, X, Y, 10
Decimal system (b): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

Yes, I read that.

I still say that X and Y are variables and should remain that way, and that my brain works with base-10 but finds base-12 incompatible.

10 system > 12 system.

Myr wrote:I still say that X and Y are variables and should remain that way, and that my brain works with base-10 but finds base-12 incompatible.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE "X" AND "Y". IT COULD BE ANY SYMBOLS. I'M JUST USING "X" AND "Y" OUT OF CONVENIENCE. I THOUGHT I HAD ALREADY MADE THAT CLEAR:

Anarch wrote:"X" and "Y" (or equivalent symbols) are digits in the duodecimal system, dumbass. They represent the decimal values of "10" and "11."

You're slow at this.

(Emphasis added.)

I very well could use "§" and "&" if I wanted to. This is a number system that hasn't been standardized, so we can use whatever symbols we fucking want, to represent 10 and 11. Please, PLEASE try to understand this. For your brain's sake.

Astica wrote:10 system > 12 system.

Maybe for the mentally inflexible. Seriously now, my brain has absolutely no trouble with this concept.

Duodec. = Decim.
1 = 1
2 = 2
3 = 3
4 = 4
5 = 5
6 = 6
7 = 7
8 = 8
9 = 9
X = 10
Y = 11
10 = 12
11 = 13
12 = 14
13 = 15
14 = 16
15 = 17
16 = 18
17 = 19
18 = 20
19 = 21
1X = 22
1Y = 23
20 = 24
30 = 36
40 = 48
50 = 60
60 = 72
70 = 84
80 = 96
90 = 108
X0 = 120
Y0 = 132
100 = 144
200 = 288
300 = 432
400 = 576
500 = 720
600 = 864
700 = 1008
800 = 1152
900 = 1296
X00 = 1440
Y00 = 1584
1000 = 1728

EDIT:

@both Astica and Myr

By the way, if you guys are having trouble adapting from Base-10 to Base-12, I can't even begin to imagine how badly you would try to adapt to a Base-2. I guess you guys should stay the fuck away from binary.

Seriously now, try to imagine someone adapting from a Base-2 decimal system to a Base-10. They'd probably think the numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 were just as unnecessary as you guys seem to think X and Y are, but you can't imagine how you'd get along without them. If we were living in a society that used Base-12, you wouldn't know how to get along without X and Y.

If you can learn to use a Base-10 system, then you can learn to use a Base-12 system. It's as simple as that.

I fucking LOVE base-2, bitch.

The fact that arbitrary symbols can be used is another reason it's impractical. Who ALWAYS knows which stands for which?


Edit: AND HAVE YOU FUCKING NOTICED THAT MOST OF MY ARGUMENTS ARE AGAINST THE USE OF NON-DIGITS?

Base-2 is NOT non-digits.

inever used any decimal system blahbahblahl thingys that i know of. and i did, i just call em them thingys.

Dark Myr wrote:I fucking LOVE base-2, bitch.

The fact that arbitrary symbols can be used is another reason it's impractical. Who ALWAYS knows which stands for which?


Edit: AND HAVE YOU FUCKING NOTICED THAT MOST OF MY ARGUMENTS ARE AGAINST THE USE OF NON-DIGITS?

Base-2 is NOT non-digits.

You just don't get it, do you.

In the Base-12 system, there are TWO MORE DIGITS than there are in the Base-10 system. You have to come up with two more symbols for them.

Likewise, in the Base-10 system, there are EIGHT MORE DIGITS than there are in the Base-2 system.

I'M JUST USING "X" AND "Y" AS DIGITS, HERE. I COULD BE USING ANY OTHER SYMBOLS.

THEY ARE DIGITS, IN A DUODECIMAL SYSTEM.

WHAT SYSTEM DOES THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE USE?

THAT'S RIGHT, BASE-10.

0-9 ARE DIGITS. PERIOD.

BASE-2 ONLY USES DIGITS FROM 0-9, SO IT'S ALL GOOD.

BASE-12 USES "DIGITS" OUTSIDE OF 0-9, SO IT'S NO GOOD TO ME.


YES, I GET IT. WHAT ISN'T UNDERSTOOD HERE IS WHAT I'M SAYING, APPARENTLY, CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT.

Damn I having nose bleed seeing those numbers.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

THIS IS A FUCKING STUPID ARGUMENT OF OPINION.

Dark Myr wrote:WHAT SYSTEM DOES THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE USE?

THAT'S RIGHT, BASE-10.

0-9 ARE DIGITS. PERIOD.

BASE-2 ONLY USES DIGITS FROM 0-9, SO IT'S ALL GOOD.

BASE-12 USES "DIGITS" OUTSIDE OF 0-9, SO IT'S NO GOOD TO ME.


YES, I GET IT. WHAT ISN'T UNDERSTOOD HERE IS WHAT I'M SAYING, APPARENTLY, CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT.

Very well, then. I can safely say that this argument is over, on grounds of "Your mind isn't very flexible, and can't handle the extremely basic mathematical concept that I am telling you right now, which could easily be learned from youth by most people of average intelligence, were they taught it."

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, kop, reb, ten.

Duodecimal.

Easy.

Come on, Myr. Seriously now.

I could probably understand it, if I had a desire to. I'm in a pissy mood, as I've said, so I'd rather say "Fuck it, it's stupid."

Talk to me again about it tomorrow via PM.

Yikes, quite alright.
Lets just not get into numbers anymore, shall we?

I can count to ten in spanish... if that counts for anything..

Actually, so can I. That's unexpected. I haven't had spanish in almost four years, and I hated it.

I can now count to ten in English, Spanish, German, and Japanese.


Well, now don't I feel special.

Un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix, onze, treize, quatorze, quinze, seize, dix-sept, dix-huit, dix-neuf, vingt, vingt-et-un, vingt-deux, vingt-trois...

French was my second choice as a foreign language in high school, after German.

If Italian had been offered, it would've been my first choice.

You're lucky, we only have Spanish and French at my school.
So next year I'll be taking French.