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Postby 1010011010 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:47 am

CURSE YOU FROSTY FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN PRODIGY!!!!!

I have no common sense whatsoever but I get good grades in school.
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Postby Viléém » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:30 pm

Frosty wrote:Selfishness has such negative connotations; ill deserved I think. Embrace it.

I definitely agree, it's about self-awareness, self-confidence and self-respect. Of course, everything has it's limits and if selfish is all you are, then you're just a dick.

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Postby ƒrosty » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:40 pm

Well sure, discipline is important; I'm not a hedonist.
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Postby Bernie » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:30 am

i just sat down in front of my computer...
and for some reason i am suddenly dying...

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Postby Voly » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:59 am

Thedemented wrote:CURSE YOU FROSTY FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN PRODIGY!!!!!


I don't see what part of what he said was prodigious. It's an obvious pattern in human behavior. If someone can think, chances are, they know they're selfish. Admitting it is different.
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Postby Gravesent » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:27 pm

I don't even know what a prodigy is, except a really cool band that made "The fat of the land" one of my all time favorites.
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Postby Sunshine » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:57 pm

Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".
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Postby daemon » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:02 pm

That song sucks ASSSSSSSSSS

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Postby 1010011010 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:36 pm

I can't help it... Every single time I read one of Frosty's sentences i have to google search or get out a dictionary or something.

@Sunshine: "Prodigious Firestarter"
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Postby Bernie » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:38 pm

Thedemented wrote:I love people (who love me back) but those who hate me can sit there and die.

after reading numerous posts, bernie found that his heart had suddenly ceased...

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Postby 1010011010 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:02 pm

Well I'm sorry Bernie. I'm I just killed you because you hate me. :lol:
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Postby Zyn » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:11 pm

...though Frosty does have a point in most cases, nearly all, there are cases where things are done for another. It would be impossible fo meto tell one of these moments, because I don't know the intentions behind why the person did it, but there is a capacity for caring in the human psyche...although an under-used part, it still can influence people to do self-less acts.
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Postby 1010011010 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:24 pm

I'm a very caring person. In fact everyone I get along with come to me for their problems most of the time.
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Postby dickwad » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:23 pm

Sunshine wrote:Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".


firestarter is on fat of the land.

personally i prefer music for the jilted generation.

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Postby daemon » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:37 pm

Darude, Tiesto, and Benassi Bros are the only techno I can really listen to.
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Postby ƒrosty » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:33 pm

Zynathias wrote:although an under-used part, it still can influence people to do self-less acts.

That's automatic or instinctual. The essence of human motivation is only the self.
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Postby Gravesent » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:43 pm

Sunshine wrote:Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".


Firestarter is a song from The fat of the land album
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Postby Voly » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:46 pm

@Definition of prodigy: It's a young person who is very smart for their age.
Astica wrote:That's probably the wankiest thing I've heard all day.

Elen wrote:If they were just bickering about politics, instead of indulging ERQ's passive-aggressive, self-aggrandizing fuckassery, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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Postby Zyn » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:54 pm

@Frosty- there can, in fact, be motivation to do something for another. Anonymous charity donations, for example. There is no physical or status gain. Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act, then there are motivations other than self-gratification and improvement.
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Postby Azgarth » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:28 pm

Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act

that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.
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Postby Spaced Ape » Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:40 pm

Frosty wrote:You're a human being. Any motivation you experience is out of self interest, whether it be material gain or psychological gratification.


Just to let you know, this isn't an exclusive human trait. In fact, it's a universal trait in all animals. Even altruism has it's roots in the "selfish" needs of a single organism.

And it goes much more deeper than that.
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Postby ƒrosty » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:57 am

I could've said organism but I didn't want to sound more like a twat.
Azgarth wrote:
Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act

that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.

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Postby Spaced Ape » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:35 am

More than just that...

But whatever.
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Postby Zyn » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:03 pm

I wasn't really viewing that as a selfish motivator, but if you do, then, in your perspective, things are, in fact, always for greed and self-enhancement. But, I view feeling good as a reward not necessarily expected. So let's agree to differ.
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Postby Azgarth » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:03 pm

it's not as much different viewpoints, i think, as different colourations of the same image.
it's where you put the accent.

doing everything for yourself like this isn't bad, it doesn't have the load it does in how it's normally meant.
nor does it mean you shouldn't be grateful for what others do, it's just that they do it because THEY decide to, because they feel like they have/want to, it doesn't change what one does.
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