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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:47 am
by 1010011010
CURSE YOU FROSTY FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN PRODIGY!!!!!

I have no common sense whatsoever but I get good grades in school.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:30 pm
by Viléém
Frosty wrote:Selfishness has such negative connotations; ill deserved I think. Embrace it.

I definitely agree, it's about self-awareness, self-confidence and self-respect. Of course, everything has it's limits and if selfish is all you are, then you're just a dick.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:40 pm
by ƒrosty
Well sure, discipline is important; I'm not a hedonist.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:30 am
by Bernie
i just sat down in front of my computer...
and for some reason i am suddenly dying...

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:59 am
by Voly
Thedemented wrote:CURSE YOU FROSTY FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN PRODIGY!!!!!


I don't see what part of what he said was prodigious. It's an obvious pattern in human behavior. If someone can think, chances are, they know they're selfish. Admitting it is different.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:27 pm
by Gravesent
I don't even know what a prodigy is, except a really cool band that made "The fat of the land" one of my all time favorites.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:57 pm
by Sunshine
Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:02 pm
by daemon
That song sucks ASSSSSSSSSS

Benny Benassi for the techno win.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:36 pm
by 1010011010
I can't help it... Every single time I read one of Frosty's sentences i have to google search or get out a dictionary or something.

@Sunshine: "Prodigious Firestarter"

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:38 pm
by Bernie
Thedemented wrote:I love people (who love me back) but those who hate me can sit there and die.

after reading numerous posts, bernie found that his heart had suddenly ceased...

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:02 pm
by 1010011010
Well I'm sorry Bernie. I'm I just killed you because you hate me. :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:11 pm
by Zyn
...though Frosty does have a point in most cases, nearly all, there are cases where things are done for another. It would be impossible fo meto tell one of these moments, because I don't know the intentions behind why the person did it, but there is a capacity for caring in the human psyche...although an under-used part, it still can influence people to do self-less acts.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:24 pm
by 1010011010
I'm a very caring person. In fact everyone I get along with come to me for their problems most of the time.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:23 pm
by dickwad
Sunshine wrote:Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".


firestarter is on fat of the land.

personally i prefer music for the jilted generation.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:37 pm
by daemon
Darude, Tiesto, and Benassi Bros are the only techno I can really listen to.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:33 pm
by ƒrosty
Zynathias wrote:although an under-used part, it still can influence people to do self-less acts.

That's automatic or instinctual. The essence of human motivation is only the self.

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:43 pm
by Gravesent
Sunshine wrote:Eh, I think prodigy is better known for "Firestarter".


Firestarter is a song from The fat of the land album

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:46 pm
by Voly
@Definition of prodigy: It's a young person who is very smart for their age.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:54 pm
by Zyn
@Frosty- there can, in fact, be motivation to do something for another. Anonymous charity donations, for example. There is no physical or status gain. Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act, then there are motivations other than self-gratification and improvement.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:28 pm
by Azgarth
Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act

that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:40 pm
by Spaced Ape
Frosty wrote:You're a human being. Any motivation you experience is out of self interest, whether it be material gain or psychological gratification.


Just to let you know, this isn't an exclusive human trait. In fact, it's a universal trait in all animals. Even altruism has it's roots in the "selfish" needs of a single organism.

And it goes much more deeper than that.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:57 am
by ƒrosty
I could've said organism but I didn't want to sound more like a twat.
Azgarth wrote:
Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act

that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.

This.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:35 am
by Spaced Ape
More than just that...

But whatever.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:03 pm
by Zyn
I wasn't really viewing that as a selfish motivator, but if you do, then, in your perspective, things are, in fact, always for greed and self-enhancement. But, I view feeling good as a reward not necessarily expected. So let's agree to differ.

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:03 pm
by Azgarth
it's not as much different viewpoints, i think, as different colourations of the same image.
it's where you put the accent.

doing everything for yourself like this isn't bad, it doesn't have the load it does in how it's normally meant.
nor does it mean you shouldn't be grateful for what others do, it's just that they do it because THEY decide to, because they feel like they have/want to, it doesn't change what one does.