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Postby Davion Fuxa » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:59 am

I think that a new thread is warranted since it looks like elections are going to be held in the US, and most likely in Canada as well.

Then there is recent world events such as Georgia and Russia, continuing events such as Afghanistan, Iraq, and Israel, and whatever events will unfold from that hurricane that is bearing down on the US.

I'm tired, so I'm not going to rabble on right now about the politics that I will soon have to observe, what about the rest of you, regardless of where you live?
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Postby Spaced Ape » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:38 am

Another thread about politics? Any particular reason why?
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Postby dickwad » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:09 am

to keep all the shit in one place apparently.

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Postby Spaced Ape » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:36 am

.....which is why he made another thread?
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Postby Davion Fuxa » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:42 am

Yep, pretty much. Looks like there will be quite some active politics occurring all over the place and should be effecting everybody in one way or another. Anyhow, guess I will rabble on a bit about politics that will concern me.

Canada will probably be going into an election soon. Steven Harper, current Canadian Prime Minister, seems hellbent on getting an election off the ground, for whatever reason it might be, it's cited that he wants the election because his party can't find enough common ground to govern under along with the other parties. But it's also been suggested that he wants to have an election before the American's get theirs underway, assuming if he waited that Obama might become president and that could hurt his parties re-election chances. (Barack Obama for the Democrats represent America's left wing party, the Conservative Party and their leader, which is the governing party represents Canada's right wing party.) This will lead to campaigning and such, but sadly, we might get stuck with our Prime Minister again for the simple reason hat the Opposing Parties can't really net much of an opposition.

On a closer to home level, My Municipal elections are coming up, but I won't say anything about them until all 3 of the current candidates place their platforms (but I'm sure someone will get a laugh out of one of the platforms that has been posted later).
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Postby Spaced Ape » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:40 am

Palin is the funniest joke the Democrats will be laughing about for years to come. (Shh, but not too loudly. Cuz remember, she's a woman! And women get special privileges, just like PoW's.)

But we need a strong pro-education president. One with a future in mind. Hell, technology is the quickest path to more money, thus boosting our economy. Science and Education can be a strong political tool, but no one seems to want to use it.

But honestly. I supported Mike Gravel from the start: http://www.mikegravel.us/issues
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Postby ardizt » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:16 am

In Finland, they plan to increase taxes on cigarettes. Oh golly
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Postby Davion Fuxa » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:02 am

I've decided that for the most part, all the candidates for the mayor election have their issues up. So here is the platform for David Boyd. I'm sure someone will get a laugh, even if they don't know anything about my city.

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Mayoral candidate wants Halifax to become a sin city


The newest candidate for mayor wants to brand Halifax the "Vegas of the East" with more strip clubs and casinos.

David Boyd would also like to see the satellite sin city moniker pushed through the sale of liquor in corner stores after midnight, and permitting bar patrons to have "take-out" drinks at closing time.

It’s all in aid of making Halifax "a party city" – a goal that the mayor wannabe puts smack at the top of his priority list.

"Halifax is a port city and we need to entertain our guests," he said Monday.

The city doesn’t currently have any selling points to draw tourists, he said in an interview.

"No wonder there aren’t any Americans coming here anymore. Why should they? There’s nothing here for them. We only have one strip club and it’s not even in Halifax, it’s out in the outskirts of Dartmouth, so we shouldn’t even expect tourists to come here."

Currently, he’s working on securing $5,000 to launch a credible campaign with lawn signs and banners.

"I have to put up the money first instead of just hoping it will fall from the sky. If I can’t reach my financial goals then I’m not going to run."

Some of the other platform promises for the tow truck driver and computer technician relate directly or indirectly to the cab industry, which has employed him for a number of years.

They include: permanently shutting down several downtown streets to traffic to facilitate better public transit and taxi service; setting up a public transportation and communications board, and making more bike, bus and taxi lanes throughout the city.

He’d also like to see people who assault taxi and bus drivers pay for their crimes through more jail time.

"We need to protect our public transit drivers (taxi cab and school bus and city transport drivers) by making stiffer sentences for attacks on them and give them more power to act in self-defence."

Mr. Boyd is no stranger to politics. He’s run in provincial and municipal elections in this area for years, the last time just eight months ago in a byelection in Woodside-Eastern Passage.

The seat was vacated after former councillor Becky Kent won a provincial nod for the area as an NDP MLA.

In that election, Mr. Boyd secured 25 of the 1,301 votes cast. It was a similar outcome to his stab back in 2003 at the provincial riding of Fairview when he pulled in about 94 votes of the approximately 7,000 ballots cast.

He’s hoping that people might remember him from those political outings.

"People are looking for a change, they’re looking for something, and sometimes you need a little spark to get people to pay attention," he said.

His candidacy in the Oct. 18 municipal election throws an interesting curve ball into a race that so far includes current mayor Peter Kelly, and Sheila Fougere, the councillor for Connaught-Quinpool.

Despite Mr. Boyd’s irreverent style and party-centric platform, Mr. Kelly said Monday it’s the voters who will make the decision on Oct. 18.

"I know he’s been involved in politics for some time," he said in an interview.

"He’ll bring his issues and platform forward and the public will choose whom they wish to have in place."

The mayor says he definitely wouldn’t condone some of Mr. Boyd’s ideas, like corner stores being all-night liquor outlets or bars being able to sell drinks "to go."

"As a result of the process with the Mayor’s Roundtable on Violence, some of the issues being promoted would certainly take us back many steps and they certainly wouldn’t be ones I would be promoting."

The impetus for the roundtable was the stabbing death of an American sailor outside of an Argyle Street bar in late 2006.

Subsequent surveys and input from police, politicians and the public revealed that some of Halifax’s late-night problems can be traced to the sale of dollar-drinks at late-night drinking establishments.

"There are some challenges we are trying to deal with and we are actually trying to make them better, not make them worse."


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BOYD'S TOP PRIORITIES

Mayoral candidate David Boyd submitted this list of platform priorities Monday to The Chronicle Herald:
• I would like to see our city as a party city. More casinos and strip clubs and live entertainment built in HRM. Halifax is a port city and we need to entertain our guests. Halifax could be the Vegas of the East. If we don’t, other cities will literally steal the show. We should put pressure on the province to expand light liquor sales in corner stores from 12 a.m. to 6 a.m. And allow bars to sell liquor to take home one hour before closing as other provinces do. We should fund year-round street and waterfront performances and art projects.

• No more projects without public approval. The Chebucto Road widening, Twisted Sisters (downtown condo and apartment development), school closures and inappropriate rezoning are examples of things being pushed through without the people affected able to (give input) on the issue.

• Reduce bridge tolls and bus/ferry fares. The high price of gas is hurting all residents and the city cannot reduce the cost of gas because it is out of our power. But what we can do is roll back the toll on the bridges and transit fares without sacrificing service or expansion.

• Set up a public transportation and communications board. We need to set up a publicly elected body to administer an umbrella of transportation services (road maintenance, traffic signals, taxis, buses, and other modes of transport) and co-ordinate communications between emergency services and public transportation and logistical services — all under one roof.

• More public parks with wheelchair access and bike trails.

Jerry Lawrence Park is a great example of a fully wheelchair-accessible park. The city should have a commitment to make all city parks wheelchair accessible by a fixed date and all future parks should be made wheelchair accessible. Expand Halifax’s bike trail system and make more bike, bus, and taxi lanes throughout the city.

• Make changes to downtown Halifax.

Permanently close Argyle Street to motor vehicle traffic. Close downtown Barrington Street, Sackville Street, Duke Street, Hollis Street, Water Street, Prince Street, Spring Garden Road to motor vehicle traffic (except for) bikes, bus and taxi service only during rush hours and weekends between 12 a.m. and 5 a.m. to reduce congestion and encourage public transportation during these times.

• More public safety presence in the community. We need to hire more police officers and help set up more volunteer community watch programs. We need to protect our public transit drivers (taxi cab, school bus and city transport drivers) by handing out stiffer jail sentences for attacks on them and give them more power to act in self-defence.

• HRM support centers needed. We need more satellite offices set up in the community and more hours of operation at HRM support centers and more flexibility as many people work different hours.

• Reduce municipal taxes for residents and businesses. More tax rebate plans and encouragement programs imported into HRM from other centres outside the province.

• Demand more from other levels of government. We need to stop (just) asking for more from other levels of government and demand our piece of the pie.
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Postby Davion Fuxa » Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:50 pm

Apparently it is now assumed that we are having an elections, and it just has to be made official. This better sums up why the Prime Minister would rather call an election now, rather then later, with one bump.

An immediate election call offers Harper a number political advantages.

With the economy wavering, the election could already be over by the time the government posts its next set of fiscal statistics on the quarterly deficit or surplus.

That eliminates the possibility of Harper’s campaign being torpedoed by headlines about an unexpected federal deficit.

An immediate campaign would also cancel byelections set for next week. It would allow for a vote to be held before a Francophonie leaders’ summit in Quebec City. And, perhaps more importantly, it would conclude before the American presidential election in November.

One of the U.S. candidates — Barack Obama — had his campaign undermined by the leak of a Canadian diplomatic memo last winter.

That incident would be more likely to resurface on the Canadian campaign trail if Obama happened to be elected president before Canadians went to the polls.

An election on Oct. 14 would pre-empt that possibility.

But it would also place the prime minister in conflict with his own words two years ago, when he hailed his fixed-election law as a key plank in his promise to reform Canadian democracy.

"Fixed election dates stop leaders from trying to manipulate the calendar," he said soon after taking office in 2006. "They level the playing field for all parties. The rules are clear for everybody.
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Postby evilredqueen » Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:56 pm

Obama for president. And that stupid hurricane that just passed New Orleans yesterday will probably end up sitting over Clevland for about 3 days again. they said by Friday... yuck.
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Postby daemon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:50 pm

... its already raining here. And wind. Lotsa wind.
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Postby Kex » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:43 pm

Yeah i'm hearing alot of news about new orleans being hit by that hurricane, but to be brutely honest, i couldnt give a shit, i live in england and ive heard over the past two days more about the hurricane and presidential elections than anything to do with sorting out the incredibly fucked up economy over here.

I swear american politics is more about image then policies, but then again, at least you fain interest :P

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Postby daemon » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:02 am

I don't. But hey to each his own. My friend brian moved to england. My family is from wales, i wouldn't mind going back. Cept I dont know welsh. Lol.
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Postby evilredqueen » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:19 pm

I have been reading about how fucked up things are in the UK. I also have 2 friends not from this forum that I write too. Until you guys get rid of the Queen ( the useless figure head) quit bitching. You live there Kex ... any idea how much of your money the royal family spends every year?
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Postby Davion Fuxa » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:01 pm

Having the Queen isn't that bad a deal if you think about it. The Queen costs a lot of money, but England makes BUCKET loads of money off her in Tourism! Then there is civic pride and what have you for the English, jobs she creates and people she supports, that sort of thing too for consideration. That's what I call a good deal.

O yea, to answer your question, it is around 40 million pounds that they pay her, down from like 90 million which was paid like a decade ago. Talk about cutting costs to maximize profit.

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I suppose this might be good to post here:

In Canada, there is discussion about our Pennies, or the 1 cent coin that we use as money. Now, for a bit of time now they have been suggesting abolishing it because it cost about 130 million to keep them in circulation and the hatred for it.

Some people still use them but for the most part they are a nuisance to most people, businesses and some politicians in government (someone actually introduced a bill to have them removed). Well, it seems a coffee shop in my area has decided to take the idea a step further and is no longer accepting pennies, or giving you them back as change.

It might not be long before we get rid of our 1 cent coin here.
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Postby Voly » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:54 pm

They want to do that here too, but you know how people hate change.
No pun intended.
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Postby Kex » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:09 am

Lol i find it difficult not to lower myself to calling you names evilredqueen, sorry but it costs like 60p per tax payer for the queen, thats like $1.22 a year. Im not so sure that the queen is responsible for the economy collapsing, but hey, you know best right.


And yes she does have her uses, as you said, shes a figurehead, she and the rest of the royal family are reprisentitives of this country, and in my opinion they do a good job of it.

Certainly better then having gordon brown ( gordon who? ) going of to countries meeting people, the queens got style and shit loadsa bling. He's got a suit and a misserable face 24/7


that is until he apears on AMERICAN IDOL saying shit like GOD BLESS AMERICA.... LMFAO, seriously, that kinda shit just wouldnt work here, but it seems saying it in america gets instant applause. ( not saying you all are like that of course :P ) complete farcical show.

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Postby evilredqueen » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:32 am

Kex wrote:Lol i find it difficult not to lower myself to calling you names evilredqueen


Now why on earth did you feel the urge to call me some names? Cause I think the Royal family is a waste? I'm not paying for them so I really don't care but I believe I read quite a few people over there are not happy about it.

Davion..40 million pounds to pay for the entire Royal family and all they use... housing, cars. food, royal parties, private jets. I don't believe that figure at all. As they would say in Missouri...... show me !!!
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Postby Voly » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:57 am

evilredqueen wrote:As they would say in Missouri...


Fuck that, nobody here is adamant about that phrase at all...
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Postby evilredqueen » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:04 am

Isn't it on your state license plates?
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Postby Voly » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:06 am

I wrote:I don't even honestly know... I'll go check.


The plates do say Show Me State on them.
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Postby Kex » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:16 am

I do apologise, it was this that annoyed me.

Until you guys get rid of the Queen ( the useless figure head) quit bitching.


I see this as 'Your queens the problem for all your woes so dont say anything about your view until you get rid of the monestry'

But i may be wrong about your intentions.

Sorry.

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Postby evilredqueen » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:46 pm

My quote may have been a bit harsh. I know you guys are not in a much different situation than we are here in the US. We watch our corrupt governments just throw our money away and give our jobs away. Sometimes I feel so helpless. As here where our military may pay $250.00 for a dam hammer I just looked at the UK and saw a very costly item that I would get rid off. But I don't have that power and I doubt you do either. I believe in taking care of your own first and that concept seems to be slipping away. At least you have universal healthcare.

If I offended you with my post.. sorry that was not my intention. I have some old friends who live in the UK. Some of the blood in my veins comes from English descent.

I hope there are no hard feelings.
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Postby Spaced Ape » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:14 pm

I'm thinking real hard about it, but if we have another voter fraud scandal here in the states I may seriously try and instigate a riot.
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