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Thedemented wrote:CURSE YOU FROSTY FOR BEING SUCH A GODDAMN PRODIGY!!!!!
I don't see what part of what he said was prodigious. It's an obvious pattern in human behavior. If someone can think, chances are, they know they're selfish. Admitting it is different.
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...though Frosty does have a point in most cases, nearly all, there are cases where things are done for another. It would be impossible fo meto tell one of these moments, because I don't know the intentions behind why the person did it, but there is a capacity for caring in the human psyche...although an under-used part, it still can influence people to do self-less acts.
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@Definition of prodigy: It's a young person who is very smart for their age.
Astica wrote:That's probably the wankiest thing I've heard all day.
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@Frosty- there can, in fact, be motivation to do something for another. Anonymous charity donations, for example. There is no physical or status gain. Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act, then there are motivations other than self-gratification and improvement.
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Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act
that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.
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Frosty wrote:You're a human being. Any motivation you experience is out of self interest, whether it be material gain or psychological gratification.
Just to let you know, this isn't an exclusive human trait. In fact, it's a universal trait in all animals. Even altruism has it's roots in the "selfish" needs of a single organism.
And it goes much more deeper than that.
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I could've said organism but I didn't want to sound more like a twat.
This.
Azgarth wrote:Unless you call feeling good about one's life a selfish act
that is exactly what he means
ultimately, you do something for yourself, you don't donate because someone is helped, you donate because you WANT or THINK that other should be helped, which has a positive effect on how you feel, or stops a negative one.
This.
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More than just that...
But whatever.
But whatever.
Is there a promised land
Or am I on the journey going to nowhere?
Are the streets paved with gold
Or am I slipping on the mold that slowly grows there?
DevilDriver - Monsters of the Deep
Or am I on the journey going to nowhere?
Are the streets paved with gold
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I wasn't really viewing that as a selfish motivator, but if you do, then, in your perspective, things are, in fact, always for greed and self-enhancement. But, I view feeling good as a reward not necessarily expected. So let's agree to differ.
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it's not as much different viewpoints, i think, as different colourations of the same image.
it's where you put the accent.
doing everything for yourself like this isn't bad, it doesn't have the load it does in how it's normally meant.
nor does it mean you shouldn't be grateful for what others do, it's just that they do it because THEY decide to, because they feel like they have/want to, it doesn't change what one does.
it's where you put the accent.
doing everything for yourself like this isn't bad, it doesn't have the load it does in how it's normally meant.
nor does it mean you shouldn't be grateful for what others do, it's just that they do it because THEY decide to, because they feel like they have/want to, it doesn't change what one does.
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